The Demi-Godly One Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Just what the name suggests which do you use? I use all real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodai Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Me too. Everybody complains that it's hard to manage, but once u get the hang of it, it's super simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroyteenangst Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 i used to prefer turn-based, but i think once you get the hang of real-time it's much more fun. there are so many crazy situations and frantic firefights you find yourself in that don't really happen in turn-based. plus there's the opportunity to pull lots of suave sf-action-movie-like moves, like desperately running from the crest of an explosion or running through a hail of gunfire and surviving. and because you can pause or slow it down, you can still have the maniacal level of control over every little thing that x-com seems to instill a desire for in its players. it's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 It does depend really. On some missions I use turn based on others I use real time. It depends on how many hostiles I expect to find, where I am, how many guys I have all sorts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psy Guy Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 For me it depends. If i have been playing a lot of fallout tactics (which i only play on real time) ill probably play apoc in turn based mode. If i just came off an UFO: ENEMY UNKNOWN marathon ill play apoc in real time. It mostly depends on mood. -PSY GUY- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodai Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Playing Fallout Tac in turn-based SUX! I just bust out with some WW2 and a Terrorist ruleset I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmarox Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Real-time.....it'd be rude not to after Gollop and co. spent so much time getting it right. Besides, you can get automatic gunfire-related lunacy in a truely special way in realtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 it is just plain confusing when the units get in each other's way in turnbased and waste eachother's tu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonHawk Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 lol, it's confusing when my soldiers are pushing each other around for that critical 5 seconds in real time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Demi-Godly One Posted November 5, 2002 Author Share Posted November 5, 2002 It's not confusing, its just annoying! :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 yeah! thats the word! and anyway, RT is more......whats the word? realistic. sorta. well, its fun watching diable being mowed down by your securisy stations in realtime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalid_zombie Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 I just love dual-wielding the guns! Finally I can have a trooper like Tanya from Red Alert, or maybe play Anakin Sky Walker from Episode Two if I use those swords *Makes 'vwing' noises* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Strike Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I prefer Real time, in Apoc. It's alright, for the most part. I like to kill.stun 'em all as quickly as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 the apoc TB engine is just totally different to the UFO/TFTD engine. of you could set waypoints, then it would be a blast! of course, it would be good if it were for RT as well. and you can't do the stun-brainsucker-bug-by-laying-down in TB i don't think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKF Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 I thought it worked. At least, it did once. Must have another go and check again then. As for waypoints, I thought there were waypoints. At least, I recall you can plot waypoints for your ships in the cityscape. - NKF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 nope. you can't. you can manually control the vehicles though it isn't suggested. too much work. :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKF Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 Oh I don't know ... https://www.geocities.com/nkfarma/temporary/wayp.html - NKF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 holy cow...how did you do that!?!? edit: ok, i figured it out. i originally had an inkling, but i wasn't sure and i didn't know that you could see the waypoints on the map. well anyway, you use the ctrl button, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Demi-Godly One Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 Coo' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKF Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Cool indeed, but the waypoints are pretty useless for group movement in real-time. It's best for individual units. See, as a group, each soldier MUST visit each waypoint tile once before moving on to the next, so they tend to get a bit muddled up when a lot of them meet at the same waypoint. In 'group formation', it's ridiculous. In 'single file', it's okay, but not all that great. However, ever notice how in single file that your soldiers, when selected as a group, always seem to form up so that they are in a line no matter how muddled up they were before they started moving? Rather a clever maneouver really. But it's even more interesting to note that the person leading the file is a little special. If you deselect the entire team but select the pointman (whomever it is, depends on your last movement order) then move that person about, the entire group will follow that unit without being told to and they won't reform like when you move them as a group. This is rather useful as now you can set waypoints for the pointman and everyone will follow in proper sequence. Were your soldiers to stand any closer, it might end up as a conga line. An even more interesting note: Using this method, you can assign groups of soldiers to a single soldier. Say from group one, you have two soldiers, and you have two more groups with two soldier each. Select one soldier from the first group, then select the soldiers from one of the other groups. Then enter single-file mode. Move about until the soldier from the first group becomes the pointman. Deselect the group then repeat the same process with the other soldier and the other group. Now, you can select your first group, go back into group-formation mode and move about. The other two groups, as long as you don't give them any new walking orders, will automatically follow your first group about (you can change their stance, firing and disposition modifiers if you want, just don't give them any movement orders). And if your two soldiers split up and go separate ways, their 'assigned' groups will follow them in single file. The only downside is that each soldier with a group following them will slow down for their group to catch up with them just like it works in single-file mode. Actually, you can even assign several groups or individual soldiers to the same soldier. So if you don't fancy having long lines of soldiers trailing after one, make small groups of one or two soldiers follow the front soldier and there you go. But what does this have to do with waypoints? Well, not much. Really though, since you're only moving one soldier, the other soldier trailing behind will mimic that soldier's previous steps rather than try to force their way onto the same waypoint. This reduces congestion and makes moving soldiers along a single waypoint a lot more fluid. As for whether this is useful... well, I can't really say. - NKF edit: On second thought, it doesn't have to be the front person. You can select anyone in the middle of a line of soldiers, and everyone following that unit will break off and follow that person instead. Basically, every unit follows the one in front of it until it is given other movement orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 yeah, pretty niffty. you can tell jullian & co really were putting alot of effort. didn't they start working on it like straight after ufo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 I play realtime. When I first got Apoc I played turn-based because that's what I was used to, but then I decided that having a chance to shoot brainsuckers off was a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Nightshirt Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 I like RT better, and in all honesty, if I ever wanted to beat a game at Medium or higher, I just couldn't do it without huge losses on TB; too many poppers and brainsuckers, not to mention Entropy launchers you could do pop all against (get it? huh? huh?... groan...). I haven't used TB in... years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brute Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 i play in realtime, simply because it is MORE realistic, and it makes apocalypse one of the best squad based real time games ever made!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki-tat Chung Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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