tasothmiester Posted June 14, 2003 Share Posted June 14, 2003 This kind of started in crispys topic but.......Post any queries about the Technology of TFTD here and I'll do my best to answer them correctly most the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Demi-Godly One Posted June 14, 2003 Share Posted June 14, 2003 Will you explain the technology or just answer questions about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevan Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 would my medikit be able to cook me some toast?wouldnt a thermal tazer cook a lobsterman?if i poke this thing on my desk do you think it would jiggle?just joking with them..... dont really have any questions, but if you can answer the last one it would be pretty funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 How is gauss related to plasma? I just don't see how magnets and charged matter are related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKF Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 Perhaps the gauss weapons derived their power source from plasma weapons, but never quite borrowed the projectile type and propulsion mechanism. See, gauss weapons need a lot of energy to charge the coils that propel the bullet. It would be inconvenient for X-Com soldiers to be carrying a miniature power reactor on their backs (imagine the Real Ghostbusters). I don't think it would fare well underwater. So, they could have used the technology that powers plasma weaponry and then converted it for use with uranium slugs instead of elerium (as e115 had run out, and synthetic elerium was still a long way off -- but even then, I don't think elerium would last very long if exposed to salt water). Thus making a miniature nuclear reactor small enough to seal inside the watertight casing of the gauss weapons. Hmm, I wonder why they never modelled weapon failures? I'm imagining small thermo nuclear explosions occuring every once in a while whenever a gauss pistol jams (for worst-case scenarios, I mean). - NKF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Well I got 2 more questions: How do you throw things under water? How do sonic weapons fire in a particular direction? The sound should go in all directions at once. Bevan: A thermal tazer would probably cook anything it came in contact with. Given enough power it would make the water surrounding the lobsterman boil and therefore cook him just like they do with the smaller ones that you can buy at the grocery store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKF Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 The tazers go the other way and freeze their enemies, I believe. Would be a nice thing to have if you live anywhere along the equator. Of course, I suppose some genius could perform a little tweaking and turn one into a portable kettle element. - NKF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Strike Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 You mean I could theoritically freeze dry my ice cream and eat it later with a thermal tazer? Awesome. Actually, the sonic weapons has a chamber which compresses the sound, and amplifies it, then it sends it out in a beam, or a type of beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasothmiester Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 bevan Posted on Jun 16 2003, 12:30 PM-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- would my medikit be able to cook me some toast?wouldnt a thermal tazer cook a lobsterman?if i poke this thing on my desk do you think it would jiggle?just joking with them..... dont really have any questions, but if you can answer the last one it would be pretty funny Hmmmmmmm. I am supposing the thing on your desk is your computer so if you poke the monitor hard enough while its on your finger would go through giving you an electric shoke which could probally kill you be my guest and try it out :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevan Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 no i dropped some jelly and i couldnt pick it up and it was jiggling...... kept me amused for at least half an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasothmiester Posted July 12, 2003 Author Share Posted July 12, 2003 I wonder if I could make a vibroblade I mean you could do some serious damage with it or if you manage to make a prototype you could sell it to the army for loads of money it would be like carry around a portable drill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Strike Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 Actually, check out Star Wars The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology. It's cool, and does have some vibro blades in it, among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 Get an 18 volt cordless drill and put an auger bit in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skonar Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 This is just my understanding of TFTD Gauss versus 'Regular' Gauss. Judging by the stuff in the TFTD booklet, how Plasma weaponry 'appears' to work, etcetera... A TFTD Gauss rifle is no more related to the standard 'Gauss cannon' with acceleration magnets than gunpowder bullets are related to it. (Well. That's an exxageration.) Plasma weapons, IIRC, worked by accelerating particles with anti-gravity waves. These particles are, to my understanding, usually considered to be moving so fast as to ignite. That'll only really work in atmosphere, though, and so I generally take Plasma weapons to be accelerating particles that have been energized and heated by Elerium, (Possibly particles of Elerium,) causing a 'beam' of superheated particles. This doesn't neccesarily require fusion, and the intense temperatures involved, but can get more than hot enough to do serious damage. ('Plasma' can be caused by Fusion, which is basically, uhh... The inside of a star.) Now Gauss weapons are apparently an adaptation of Plasma weaponry, and from what I understand, are based on accelerating microscopic particles in beams or 'clumps', not shells. Basically, as I understand it, take sand. Throw it at someone. Notice how it stings? Now accelerate it at them at some ridiculous speed like mach seven. Painful, huh? Well, consider this, somewhere in the UFOpedias it mentions using Gallium Arsenide capsules/shells. (Which I translate to being near microscopic in scale...) Anyway. I do recall reading somewhere that Gallium Arsenide, or whatever it was, was some really nasty stuff. (Possibly Radioactive, I don't *quite* recall now.) But. If my theory here is correct, the TFTD gauss rifles are firing microscopic particles, probably radioactive, in clumps through water. My fluid dynamics isn't too strong, and this might actually result in all the particles halting after a few inches, but the way I pretend it goes is the particles are too small/energetic to get caught up on water. This is just my opinion based on everything I've managed to dredge out about this stuff. I'm no major league scientist. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 So do you think a plasma shot would be more of a beam, or kind of like a ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Strike Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Actually, I believe that the X-Com gauss weapons are similar to rail guns, but made to work underwater. Although, I am not 100% sure of that. someone currently playing the game can correct this for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Gauss tech, IRL is basically a railgun. I remember doing magnetic field problems with it in Physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 So do you think a plasma shot would be more of a beam, or kind of like a ball?A ball. The superheated gas would be compressed into a very small ball by the anti-gravity/magnets and then it would be propelled out of the weapon. There would have to be some way of reducing the interaction between the plasma and air (such as the ball projecting its own anti-gravity field to repulse any oxygen/nitrogen atoms). Another way to avoid atmospheric bleeding might be to project it as a beam but the power requirments most likely would be too excessive for a hand held weapon. However if the speed of the ball was high enough it would look like a beam to an observer as the light path of the ball would remain on the retina for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Excellent... heh I've been writing my fic with plasma "balls" so far, I'm glad I don't have to change anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skonar Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Well, you could also take it from the perspective of the plasma weapon 'Squirting' superheated particles, which would initially be in a form of beam, but as it ignites with air around it and falls prey to turbulence, the beam would get 'compressed' as it travelled, forming a sort of turbulent, very very fast, burning ovoid. Maybe? (Ps - Check the Gauss weapons entries in the UFOpedias. It talks about particle streams and anti-protons, not slugs and magnetic waves. TFTD Gauss is, as far as I know, not 'Normal' Gauss.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 My idea concerning the Gauss technology of TFTD is that it uses magnetic accelerators to compress and propel forwards the stream of anti-protons mentioned on the UFOPedia. There's a number of accelerators built into the weapon and as the anti-protons travel from one another they gain speed. The need for the 'shell' comes from the fact that anti-matter quickly interacts with matter in an explosive way so the anti-protons would have to be prevented from interacting with matter until the target. The term 'Gauss' is what confuses me the most since there's a number of physical and mathematical formulas that use it. It is more associated with magnetic functions but the ideas of the mathematican Gauss form the basis of algebra and usually a bell shaped curved on a xy plane is called a Gauss curve. That can also be related to TFTD in two ways: first it represents how the power of the weapons builts up fairly fast (y-axis) over time (x-axis). However it also shows how fast the power decreases after reaching its maximum. Considering the notion of the 'shell' this would show that its speed will quickly drop after reaching its maximum, affecting range. However the Gauss curve also shows the usual random distribution the results in a certain interval. For instance as the pellets of a shotgun leave the barrel they will follow several directions (the scatter effect). A few will follow trajectories that will cause them to completely miss the target but the majority will fly on paths that will make them hit it. Thus Gauss might also be related if the TFTD weapons (like the pistol) would instead fire anti-protons like a shotgun. However that doesn't seem to be the case on TFTD considering what I've said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Strike Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 I thought that the gauss rifles, and such, were basically rail guns, but with a twist. Or a few. I thought they used an accelarator, could be magnetic, to get the projectile up to speed, and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 OK. New question. Why are there bubbles in TFTD? If they are using liquid oxygen to breathe, there shouldn't be bubbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Photon Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Maybe that aren't bubbles of air but bubbles of methane... you see, they are probably nervous when they get into battle :devil: Seriously though... TJ, why don't you tell them about the weapons we talked about a month ago? it may be an interesting thing to discuss about in this topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 A completly renewable resource! Perhaps you could make an engine like the ones in Mad Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now