Snikers Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Just what exactly is the km/h speed of a Cryssalid? From what I can tell is... Each Cryssalid has, if I remember, 120 TU.The average street square takes about 4 TU to traverse.Each tile is, judging by how it can hold one crumpled human form, about 2 m in width. 120 * 2 * 0.25 = 60 m per turn. Now...how long (in s) is a turn? Before, I had guessed it was about 4 s (can get off about three autofire bursts per turn) but that would clock the Cryssalids at about 900 m a minute, meaning 54 km/h... Does that sound accurate...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Is this an unladen Cryssalid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skonar Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Also, what, by that formula, are the stats for a very energetic soldier, a very not energetic soldier, and the other aliens? We need data for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Actually a square is only 1m wide. Look at it when the human is standing not crumpled as a corpse. When they fall down dead they do not lie down they simply fall as if all of their bones were removed from them. Their knees and elbows also overlap the edges of the square slightly... As for the length of a turn it is most definitely not four seconds... These soldiers are presumably moving in stealth and they move a long way. I personally would say it's more like 10 seconds per go. That would give the Chryssalids a much more realistic speed of 10.8km/h, approximately 7mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Demi-Godly One Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, but then humans would have a speed of 3 or 4 mph, which is pretty slow if they are running.(It seems like they are running, since they lose so much energy from moving around.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 consider, if you will: our top atheletes can run at approximately 10m/s there are approx 1600 meter in 1 mile (afaik)1600m / 10m/s = 160s160s / 60seconds/min = 2.67 mins 60minutes / 2.67minutes/miles = ~22.4 miles thus our top athletes run at about 22.4miles per hour i my self walk at about 3-4 miles an hour, but thats a pretty leasurely saunter.personally i'd think that chyrissalids (as they are supposed to move scarily fast) would be able to challenge our top athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 As far as human energy is concerned. It takes far more energy to get from A to B in complete silence than it does to just sprint there. Trust me! Chryssalids are supposed to run extremely fast but I don't think the speed we're calculating is their running speed. I think it's their casual walking speed. Have you psi'd a Chryssalid for subsequent turns? It takes a helluva long time for theuir energy to run down. I don't know why they wouldn't run while they were in a battle but still, humans don't run away from them in the geoscape and they have only half of a Chryssalid's top speed. So why bother running? I'd like to see anyone in the world capable of running top speed for an hour Alan. The three minute mile is not only for athletes though. A lot of people in the forces can travel a good three or at least four minute mile... Doesn't mean to say they won't pass out at the end of it but so would the world's best athlete if he kept going for 22miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Demi-Godly One Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Well properly trained people (Or just the humans that were around when we evolved) can run (not sprint) for a very long period of time. Literally hours straight.(That's how we were able to kill animals when we first evolved, we would just chase them hours or days on end, since we had the stamina) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Then we invented cars and microvave dinners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Mmm... Stouffer's Mac & Cheese... :inlove: https://stouffers.com/images/1121.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Fox, that's just not comparable to home-cooked Kraft Dinner. I have no idea why nobody imports dried macaroni and cheese powder to Ireland, but I haven't found it yet, and I'm sad. Ontopic: Vet, my guys would run when I tell them to run, but it is animated as a walk. Probably because of all that standard equipment. The stealth would come in when they stop and use reaction fire. I wouldn't sneak across an open area exposed to enemy fire, I'd run for cover. But anyway: I'll use Vet's 1sq=1m assumption and Snickers' 4 TU/m requirement to cross pavement. I'll use metric. 120 TU's will get the Chrys 30m in one turn. Idle internet discussion puts 10km/h as a strong maintainable walking pace for a fit person and top athletes able to run ~30km/h for short distances (400m Olympic events). 11km/h = 3m/s36km/h = 10m/s The Chrys at 30m in one turn, if we give him the 36km/h speed, implies a 3 second turn (30m/10m/s). This works if our average soldier marches 3x3=9m, 9 squares down the street in one turn and spends 9x4 = 36 TU to do so. So can someone confirm the average (rookie) soldier TU's?If it's higher than 30-40, either the turns are too short or our soldiers are running faster. I keep wanting to ask "African or European?" but that's a different offtopic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKF Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Your average rookie has something like 55 TUs (min: 50 max: 60), and just to put it into perspective your generic civilian has 35 TUs. That's not going to explain why the earth is banana shaped, but there you go. - NKF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Demi-Godly One Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Do your units TU's change depending on the difficulty? Becuase today I had a soldier with a natural 48 TU's. (It might not be normal because I'm sure I've downloaded something to increase the difficulty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 120 Tu4 Tu/Square (best ground)1 m/square1 Turn = 5 seconds 13.42 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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