Poor Yurik Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Ok, here are two problems I've been having and I'm wondering if anyone knows the fix: 1) Real-time, in-editor lighting/shadows triggered via the Y key no longer works. I have no idea why not. It worked for quite a few days and I just noticed it not working today. Turning on real-time preview doesn't help. I checked my editor controls in input.cfg and it hasn't been unbound. How do I get it working again? 2) Roofs. Ok, I have them mostly figured out except for one big issue -- Z-fighting If I have 3 pieces of plain1, one on top of the other, all solids or intermediate solids, the first two link together fine but the top-most piece doesn't link up/adapt properly and there's a very noticeable border of z-fighting where they meet. I've loaded up Nival's maps and this issue isn't present. Now, here's the kicker: I copy and pasted a piece of their roof section that worked into my map, and the problem was present all of a sudden! Now, even weirder -- I thought maybe this meant there was a map level variable or setting to correct this then -- so I copy and pasted a piece of MY roof into the Nival map and the problem was still there! Ok guys, I would really appreciate some help with this. I feel like i'm very close to having it all figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Yurik Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 Here's a single pic of my first map so far so you guys know I'm actually being productive and actually trying to get some new missions out to the community: /silent_storm/yurik-s2-editor01-sm.jpg It's a work in progress of course and there are 2 more floors above that first floor, I just didn't feel like taking 3 screenshots for the same unfinished map PS. I got the map lighting working again, I had to do an install repair. Apparently one of my config files had a problem. I'm still having the roofing problem for 3 story roofs that I listed above in my original post, even for plain2 and 1 attached. It's highly annoying. I really need help on this one singular problem, I got pretty much all my other questions figured out through experimentation. I'm crossing my fingers hoping someone knows. I wish it was possible to talk to the Nival guys :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Firstly, the map is looking great! As for the roof problem, I don't have any ideas sorry. I've only done soem basic roofing on a small shed to test it out, and I mainly had problems finding the right pieces to go inthe right spots. At this point I don't think any other guys from Nival come here very often, but Bandures and a couple of other Nival guys read their own forums a fair bit. perhaps senf them a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Yurik Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 Thank you. I pm'd Bandures with a detailed explanation of the problem + 2 pics to show it. We'll see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingvar Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 You can send these of a picture with roofs and me too? I too try to do the first map and me it would be desirable to be trained a little. It is useful. :)My e-mail sustra@yandex.ru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Yurik Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Still no reply from Bandures. I'm guessing he's busy but I really hope he lends a helping hand to the roofing problem : Here are 2 pics to illustrate the problem (which I sent him): A working nival roof:/silent_storm/yurik-s2-editor-roof_zfighting01.jpg My roof plagued by z-fighting:/silent_storm/yurik-s2-editor-roof_zfighting02.jpg Both problem areas were made out of the same components: roof 1x1x1/plain1 and both consist of solids and intermediate solids with the same layer order the nival guys use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Just curios, as I have only built one basic roof.. but... I noticed some of the nival roofs seem incompete, yet within game they are fine. Do the roof parts automatically fill gaps? and... Did you place the roof parts 1 by 1 or did you drag and fill the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damocles Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Floor Links... that seems to be the key to the z-fighting issue (if you haven't already figured it out). If you link the two (or more) floors that are the rooftops the z-fighting disappears (usually). If it remains, then you might need to rebuild sections in various orders. I found that building the lower parts first then the top parts was best for removing the z-fighting. I still have absolutely no idea how they managed to make the roofs that have huge gaps that get filled in thoguh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Yurik Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 I'm gonna play with floor links today. Thanks alot for the tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Yurik Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Holy shit that fixed it! Hell yeah Damocles! :D:D:D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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