Tammy Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I didn't mean I thought that this would do the job, of course, but it doesn't even look like a step in the right direction unless it turns out that he's lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Hmm... I'll tell you what, I'll sleep on it.. You post whenever you feel like it. I'll put it in my next post. I'll sort it oot though. No worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I'll think about it. I'm not sure when I'll get around to posting again right now. I'll try not to be too long about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Well, whilst you two sort things out for yourself, I've just started introducing my own main character. Be a bit more cautious when you use him though, hehe. Â I could come up with several others in the near future as well,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Loonie I know we spoke already but I think you may need to introduce a few more in the future... This guy is just too wierd for such an elite branch of the armed forces... He talks like a child, he has shown no respect to anyone and when he doesn't get what he want's he shouts for it... I've seen interviews for entry into the Royal Air Force... They don't let people with glasses in... XCom is just a tad above the air force methinks and they've just accepted a widely declared skitzophrenic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 True, but X-Com also seemed to accept a street thug called Cleo Andrews into their "elite" ranks, now didn't they. :hmmm:  I would never have introduced MadCap if I had noticed that the already established characters were all military, reliable, worked hard,... Instead I found several other such special cases apart from Cleo, like the fact that Keller was also accepted into the army. Now the fact that your skin could be seriously injured from too high exposure from the Sun seems to be quite a bit more unnaceptable for the army than if someone would have to "wear glasses" as you put it, even if she did work as hard as hell. :dontgetit:  In any event I don't want you to become too alarmed about MadCap as I promise you that he won't get too out of hand, but will remain true to the Background in quite a few terms. That's also the reason why I mentioned only reports to describe him, as all reports are SUBJECTIVE, which means that whilst MadCap looks this way he just might not be so. I feel that by doing this post I might have already revealed quite a bit more about him than I should in order to keep him interesting (and in more ways than just being a nut ), but in any case I will develop him carefully through the following stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snikers Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 like the fact that Keller was also accepted into the army.               Now the fact that your skin could be seriously injured from too high exposure from the Sun seems to be quite a bit more unnaceptable               for the army than if someone would have to "wear glasses" as you put it, even if she did work as hard as hell.   I knew that was a bad idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 All I can say is if this guy comes anywhere near the science labs, Zager will drench him in hydrochloric acid. It's nothing personnel, Dr Zager just doesn't like having nutcases around delicate scientific experiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos the Jackal Posted January 7, 2003 Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 I'm not entirly sure whats going on in the fanfic at the moment... 4 or 5 unrelated things are happening at once, not to mention the arival of yet more *cough* 'unlikely' characters..... I am, at this moment in time considering re-deploying the dreaded Pruning Shears of Anquish , which were responible for the infamous Kitat Chung Fanfic Massacre Of 2002. Hmmmm... much consideration must be taken. But let it be known, the Evil Fanfic Moderator is back, and he considers the teapot song to be a pretty soft option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snikers Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Pruning Shears of Anguish? I hate to ask, but does that mean you cut all the junk out of the fanfic? Bad news for me then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Hey, if you want to use the shears than do it. I will adapt as neccesary and although I would like MadCap to develop his story here, we can ditch him too and I make a more *normal* character. Ugh that word sounds so repulsive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Whoa there! Not so fast Loonie! Noone mentioned anything about a normal character in the fic. Yuch... Cleo is hardened by the time she spent on the streets and harbours many if not all the characteristics of a warrior. No, not a soldier, she has had no military background... But she is a good fighter and her background will enable her to adapt fast. Therefore she's a good choice.Keller IS strange but if you remember Snikers, I PM'd you about her character at the beginning of the fic. She started out as a hybrid I believe... I thought it was too early for thatand you agreed and changed it. Fine Keller ios still a freakshow but it may be her character that unlocks some of the psionic discoveries in the future.MadCap is though, for want of a better word, mad! His interviewer said he had a problem with respect and orders all in few words. His squad clearly regards him as psychotic. His lieutenant seems to be hypnotised somehow and the chopper crew that transferred him felt so strongly about his idiocy that they risked their jib to warn the commander! If he hadn't already created enough of a mess he then decides to point out in the voice of an eight year old that Pine Gap is the prettiest military installation he has ever seen! If I was general Genega I would have shot him right there...My personal choice would have been the police officer from the start.One more thing. If he stays both Trigger and Rick will have nothing to do with him... Â (Sorry for the harshness of this post but you don't seem to understand the problem here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snikers Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Erm, maybe we can keep MadCap, but downplay it just a bit? Or maybe he acts like an adult around superiorofficers, or...well, something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 No problem as far as harshness is considered. I know it's for the best of the fic so don't worry as far as harshness is concerned at all Vet.  I understand that MadCap is going to have problems adapting and I also never even remotely thoght of him quickly getting to know the team and all that. Quite the opposite! I want him to have quite a hefty amount of problems and that is also the reason why I made him like that. As far as the psychosis thing is considered - please try to understand that I WILL elaborate on it and that it is not so clear cut and simple as you put it! I know that Cleo might make a good warrior, but that wasn't my point. My point is this: "How could X-Com have heard about her? Did they just decide to check the local gangs in a random city and said - Oh look that one seems good" The point I was trying to make is that there must be thousands of street thugs like Cleo in the world. So why randomly pick her from the others. :hmmm:  I might want to elaborate on other things as well. His Lieutenant was not "hypnotized" but by spending time with him I was trying to emphasize that MadCap made an impression on him. I wanted you to ask yourselves: "How can a schizo make an impression on a military Lieutenant?".  As far as the pilot is considered, he wasn't warning the General in any way, but was blowing off steam. That sure as hell couldn't have been misenterpreted. :dontgetit: And as far as him shouting that the place is a pretty place? Why would the General want to shoot him for that? Because he sees things from a different perspective???  I'm also not worried the slightest bit about him having nothing to do with Rick or Trigger either, since I have noticed that there are a lot of other examples in the fic where some guys avoid others. I've already revealed god knows how many things about him with having to explain him like this so the next time you or anyone else disscusses him, I won't respond! Not because I would be insulted or anything childish, but because if I elaborated even further on him, you would figure the guy out! So I would just like to ask you - the fiction moderators - to trust me on this thing, because I promise you, that I won't develop him in a stupid or unrealistic way. :angel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Perhaps you could provide one or more of the mods with a PM that explains...that would eliminate the problem without revealing too much to too many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 All that I have to say is that Gaston certainly won't want this man in his squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Heh, Gaston most likely won't be the only one, Zager. Â I could do that Tammy, but I am quite hesitant in doing so. Still if it comes to it then I guess I'll have no other choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I'm sorry, hon, but you're going to have to convince somebody in charge that he is legitimate X-COM material and that you can write about him without sounding nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Okay Tammy I've given the lowdown to Veteran. To tell you the truth I'm getting tired of argumenting MadCap and as I told Veteran, his and any other's decision on him must be final after he reviews what I've written up about him. And the decision is this. Can the UFO Fanfiction section handle a character like MadCap. :dontgetit:  Quite frankly I don't think it's worth trying to explain him any longer so if I still won't convince you after Veteran gets back here, I'm making a more ordinary character so that we can stop these long and ardous discussions and WRITE SOME FIC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snikers Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Well, I don't have that much of a problem with him, if he proves his worth... But then I made Keller the inbred, Jennings the fodder and Snikers the sociopath (which got the boot), so I guessmy opinion is moot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Loonie's trying to keep aspects of his character MadCap secret, to build interest - unfortunately this conflicts with anyone else trying to include MadCap in their posts, as you need to know a bit about him to write him realistically. At least if Veteran has the whole story we have two qualified authors for MadCap, and Vet's seal of approval.  Snickers nicely included some backstory in his profiles, so we could write for his characters, even if they are a weird bunch. Poison could use some backstory - how did she get here? - when Tammy feels like writing it. Probably when we experience a bonding moment between Poison and another character. Hmm. <re-reads> Better slap a PG rating on that.  I'll go re-read the profiles again. And maybe write some fic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I've sent Loonie my opinion. And I've asked for MadCap's profile to be edited. When it is please eveyone go and ceck it out. Loonie will ask wat we tink and eveyone has to tell him (and me!) wat they think. Oterwise the fic won't go anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Poison could use some backstory - how did she get here? - when Tammy feels like writing it. Probably when we experience a bonding moment between Poison and another character. Hmm. <re-reads> Better slap a PG rating on that. Well, there's a bit of info in her profile, and she's had a thing or two revealed here and there in the fic itself. I'll have her tell Tammy some stuff soon...unless you guys would prefer to see a steamy scene between her and Warlord or something... :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Does she bite? Hard?  Notes for the science types (Zager, Alitorious, etc):"Ablation", as in ablative armour, means damage. Expected damage, in this case. The laser prototype is pointed at an armoured target, so they don't have to replace it as often. "Backscatter" is the reflected energy, which goes in all directions thanks to the fine graining of the target material.  The amount of energy delivered to the target in a laser blast is calculated from how much damage the target shows, how much it heats up, and/or how much was reflected in a given direction.  Plotline: Photon's first prototype delivered only 12%, say, of the required shot damage from one battery. More batteries could be used to get more damage, but it's a question of how to handle the high currents and get all that energy into the lasing crystal rather than how many shots we can get out of a battery.  The accidental pulse delivered 20% using only a tenth of the expected energy, leaving enough in the battery for a second and third shot. IE. a huge jump in efficiency of energy delivery to the target. In a week or two of further research, the prototype will be able to deliver the damage of a regular laser pistol. I still can't explain the infinite-shot capacity without resorting to magic and/or quantum physics (Gigawatts of damage from a kilowatt battery?). Notes for the sharp types: anyone catch my reference to the game's 80-item limit? and what a Mummer is? JFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Actually, I kind of explained that with the description of Zager's bioelectric cell. It's capable of storing incredible amounts of electricity, on a much order than a chemical battery can. It doesn't have infinite shots, but enough that the gun won't run out of energy during a battle. If you replace the cells between each mission, then presto, no ammo worries. Zager's planning on selling it later on as a truly cost effective battery for electric cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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