Zager Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 "Look the both of you might as well trust me on this. X-Com may have an Intelligence division, but X-Com itself is definately not an investigation group. And the intel division has a LOT of other better things to do that spend its valuable resources to track down some company so that they could sue them all because of Zager's benefit (since only he would actually be able to get the money from the settlement and don't give me the fact that X-Com would get any since they officialy do not exist )" If I recall correctly, X-COM was an investigative organization before it became X-COM. And also, the purpose of the investigation wouldn't be for Zager to sue them, but to track down the traitorous SOBs who were abusing X-COM for their own pocket and put them out of business, permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 X-Com was investigative. But it isn't anymore!! And abusing X-Com? How? They stole their research but did not structural damage whatsoever. How are they actually hurting them? In the short term they aren't hurting them at all. Only longer term perhaps, by which time the aliens would probably be defeated and X-Com could by THEN deal with them. But even so it is rather pointless. As I said there are plenty of ways to hide their origin. Besides what do I even care?! If you want to do an added mission to get them go right ahead! I just think it's unrealistic that X-Com acts like real tough guys that kick the AZZEZ of anyone that so much as steals data from them. That's not professional like X-Com is said to be. That's just plain street logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 *reads, considers, ponders* x-com is a highly secretive organization, thus any security leaks would be tracked down, and dealt with. Once they have found an agent, they're going to want to know who he works for, as no-one in the public should even know about x-com, let alone know enough to infiltrate it. thus and such company knowing that much will be put on a todo list of some sort.... be it an 'enemies to take out now' list, a 'sort when the opportunity arises' list, a 'neutralize by feeding false information' list, or whatever. still, whatever happens they wouldn't be left alone. there would at least be an attempt to find out who it was, as a security leak is a threat, what ever form it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Yeah, what Alan said. Similarly, all these amateur hackers running around the base[1][2] are certainly being noticed and will require management. Since most of them are employed as soldiers and info control in and out of the base is tight, [3] they are more of a pain in the butt and a resource drain on the Security department than a threat to be dealt with harshly. Their forthcoming discipline is more likely to be creative than vindictive. If Ego Terrorist is listening, that's Pickering's department. I've tried to put Worm and Slice to good use in Engineering. [1] Ki-tat and Hankosha have both breached the outer security layer and accessed personnel files[2] amateur as in not professionally employed[3] Zager had correspondence, yes, but this isn't the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Vetty, you have a lot to learn about how these things are served in real life. I don't know quite how that was meant to come out but don't patronise me Loonie... I'm Royal Air Force, and I know a hell of a lot more about army and intel procedures than you do. The stranger in the dark car park is obviously just an example but there is no possible way this company could sell on XCom technology without XCom being able to trace it to them. Look the both of you might as well trust me on this. X-Com may have an Intelligence division, but X-Com itself is definately not an investigation group. As has already been said, XCom IS an investigation group. What do you think the huge offices in Pine Gap are? They aren't just typing up memos for General Genega... Well some of them may be but that's beside the point! If any XCom technology was leaked to the outside world, the organisation would go to any extent necessary to locate the source of the leak. This leak would then be disposed of somehow and any recipients of the stolen technology would be promptyl shut down, dissolved and possibly permanently removed from the face of the planet... I'm pretty much the master of RL intelligence work and no one can beat me MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Next time, think before you start to talk about something you clearly don't understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Okay! Sorry! It wasn't meant to patronize you, just my belief that this wouldn't be made that way. And as far as the last quote was considered I was deliberately making myself a geek back then. If you think that was meant for me to brag then you need to learn quite a bit more about me. But as I said, do as you like. I don't really care that much about what happens after Terrick is discovered. I just don't think it would go down that way but it's your call in the end. So do what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Loonie: Don't get discouraged. If you let us know here your vision for Terrick, they _will_ have an influence on the final product. I was hoping we'd end up being sympathetic to him - and wouldn't we want to rescue his family at that stage, like Tom Clancy would? How did you imagine it playing out? (Who exactly is being held hostage?) I haven't written much conspiracy theory but I can imagine how false companies, etc. would keep our investigators off the trail. We can allude to this, switch to the false-information feed to keep things simple, and get back to the fighting-aliens fic and away from the corporate-crime fic. Zager setting himself up for life on the patent proceeds and protecting them like a vigilante..whatever...hope he has a good lawyer. Patent protection only works if the patent is registered, which means it's no longer top secret. And this is a fighting-aliens fic, not a legal proceedings fic edit: oh yeah, must write in fic before Gia dies of boredom waiting for TJ to speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Ah, just steal the alien alloys and we'll all be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Fine! Whatever works! I'm not criticizing or attacking anyone here, just expressing my opinion about things. :dontgetit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Let's just all calm down and back off before someone's feelings get hurt. We're all in this together, so let's start drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Wouldn't it be better if we didn't put holes in the boat Zager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Lousy typos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Don't worry we know what you mean! I agree! Enough holes! Who has the bungs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zager Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Just to mention, Tammy and I are going to do a JP for Gaston and Tammy, so please don't interfere or post for our characters until it's done. We should have it up by tuesday evening (EST). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Just to point out that the reason my last post was so long was that I did that with Tam's help as well. So technically I guess it should be two posts... Joint posts always go on long though as you only need to think about half of it.Zager, and Tammy if she's here! Try to keep posting anyway if you have other characters to write for. It'll be annoying if the fic isn't posted in until Tuesday.And that goes to the rest of you too! Look at all this character development going on here! Post dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Nice last post by Loonie there. I think Hankosha's gonna be in a lot of trouble real soon... Remember to be careful though both of you. After all, Terrick and Hankosha are both human controlled characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Terrorist Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Don't worry I'll play nice :devil: Seriously though, I won't be pulling Hankosha just yet, I do want to have some fun at the party... and meet Tammy :inlove: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Does anyone think it's getting late? I reckon after Tammy speaks to Zager we should make it midnight... That's just because my character development is going well though. What oes everyone else reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 I would be up for midnight to strike definately. I can only listen in with scientists so much and if Tammy's engaged....there isn't that much to do. Let X-Com be launched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyfishGreen Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 I wish I could pull a blue dragon out of my butt... Hankosha, something tells me the real Pickering would have handled that better. Would you consider a rewrite? And who are these pranksters, so the rest of us can reference them? I'm close to assigning Wexford and a motive. Party will probably wind down in an hour anyway. Still wondering if Green should have a friendly go at Jasper... or the cook at Ki-tat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hmm, yes Ego may have dealt with that a little more properly... Maybe wait for him before a rewrite though. PM him maybe. Why would green have a friendly go at jasper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Yeah, I guess I'm in trouble. I had to be away unexpectedly last night. We might be able to do our post in a half hour or so if Zager's up for it. I'll IM him and ask. Then whoever wants to meet Tammy, just wander over to her and say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonie Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Could it be?! Could Terrick actually get to MEET her after being wrestled away from her thrice?! Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Terrick already met tammy once in the canteen but Gaston came over didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Terrorist Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Okay...do I wait for Hankosha to change his post or do I ignore it and post as I would of...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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