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Marsec High explosive vs. Alien Vortex Mine


Alex_D

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I know the stats of the VM are somewhat higher than the HE. But the other day, I was assaulting one of the Alien Dimension Buildings, and I do like to demolish these orange pads to prevent further alien reinforcements.

 

Well, I had a surplus of HE that I took with me to the mission, thinking it may do the trick too (It's funny, I never used HE for the same task before, always did with VM).

 

What happened is I destroyed the pads, no problem, but I noticed, that unlike the VM, the HE left a small hole into the ground, and when I finished all four pads, I got a massive digging instead.

 

What do you think? Was it just a coincidence, or both are supposed to leave craters in the floor? It seems to me, when VM are researched, HE are obsolete, or not?

 

By the way, in the last mission (Alien Gates) the pads are green and not orange, my question is if can you destroy them?

 

Greetings

 

Alex

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I know for a fact that you barely even get hurt from dimension missiles in a full suit of disrupter armour (experimented with this on the really old forums). And the only other fact that I know is that the vortex mine is about the explosive that a full suit of disrupter armour cannot withstand too well. But with everything else, you're practically immune.

 

Oh, all explosives chew away at the armour's durability, and it will get destroyed once it hits 0. But while the armour is in effect, the full suit will protect you from practically everything. The most would be a few hitpoints of health.

 

I suggest you try getting a soldier with a full disrupter suit to experiment with dropping a blast-on-impact HE pack. Don't wear shields, by the way.

 

- NKF

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What I hate most, is when wearing my classic late-game suit (disruptor armor, marsec torso, 2 shields), and in a very close-combat situation, the aliens like to "die" so close that the Vortex Mines they were carrying, are ignited by the dimension missiles they fired from behind. They are three or four VM going off plus the initial damage of the DM, almost a killing, and no equipment to recover :blink:

 

Alex

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Maybe the HE has a better vertical explosive radius than the Vortex Mine?

Exactly. These were my first thoughts when I saw it happening. Same happens when used in the city buildings, know I am raiding CoS every 10 game-minutes :blink:

 

Greetings

 

Alex

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Now you mention it, I don't recall any instance where an alien throwed one above me and I got damage (I recall plenty of mines landing below me :blink:)

 

However I do recall roofs being destroyed because of Vortex Mines. I guess they are very weak.

 

Greetings

Alex

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well.. its a mine and I do think V. mines Are stronger in radius and the blast upwards.. as I don't think mines were constructed to kil something beneath it.. so thats why its not a Good thing to use if you want to blow holes in the ground..

 

as per High Exp. they are designed to Blow everything up.. up and down and in the radius.. so thats why they blow everything up :blink: :devil:

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